Episode 10 - Time Might Be Real And Also Made Up

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What if “time” isn’t the solid thing we’ve been taught to believe it is? I start with a memory that still messes with my head: my grandfather could tell you exactly how many days old you were. That simple switch from years to days cracked open a bigger question for me, and it turns into a bonus-sized, 10th-episode deep dive into what time means, who defines it, and how it shapes our lives.

We pull apart the difference between time and the ways we measure it, then I throw out a challenge: if every clock vanished tomorrow, what would actually change about your life? From there, I move through time perception and critical thinking, looking at how humans built systems to organize change, and how those systems quietly become the background rules for school, work, sleep, and identity.

Then we widen the lens. Nature doesn’t run on calendars, and different cultures have marked time through seasons, moons, and cycles. I talk about monarch butterflies living a migration story across multiple generations, and I share a personal moment from a long ride across the plains where “mainstream time” stopped mattering and something deeper took over. Finally, we get into time as power and control in laws and rights, and touch on the scientific angle too: relativity and the idea that time may not be as fixed as we treat it.

If you’re into philosophy of time, Indigenous perspectives, or just want your brain stretched in a practical way, press play. Subscribe, share this with a friend, and leave a review with your answer: is time real, or is it a tool we built to track change?

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Transcript

Opening Question About Time

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What if everything you believed about time isn't actually real? Not in the way that we've been taught to think about it. We measure it, we organize our lives around it, we even build laws and identity on it. But what if time is just something we create to make sense of change? This episode starts with a simple question and a memory. A teacher who once said time may not exist, a conversation with my father about how people in the past understood the world differently, and my grandfather who could actually tell you how many days old you were. That got me thinking, not just about time, but about who defines it, who experiences it, and whether it exists at all. So instead of asking what time is it, maybe the better question is what does time actually mean? So this is a special episode. This is actually the 10th episode, and it's important because recently we hit over 100 downloads,

Tenth Episode Bonus Setup

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which is kind of cool actually when you think about it. So this episode is actually gonna be longer than normal, longer than the 30 minutes I usually try to hit. So because it's dealing with time, I thought it would be kind of interesting that we can play around with the concept about time. Full disclaimer: I know that the people who actually read the transcripts, I use Buzz Sprouts app that uses AI to actually listen to my voice and then it translates everything. So if you're seeing the trans transcription and it's not similar to what I'm saying, uh that's sorry, that's not my fault, but that's just a tool that I use on Buzz Sprouts uh features. So with that being said, I hope you enjoy this 10th episode about time. And it is a bonus episode. So let's begin. My grandfather had this ability to calculate how many days how many days you were. And it's kind of funny because

Grandfather Counts Life In Days

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yeah, I I never really thought about it in that concept before. It's just something that he did, and it wasn't like a party trick or anything like that, it was just something that he kind of kind of said in general, and you know, he was a good thinker, he was a big thinker, and I I mentioned him a few times on my podcast, and he's no longer here, but you know, a lot of those memories that I'm talking about, I'm sharing with you guys. So I hope you appreciate that idea. So I do use Chat GPT to find out certain questions, and it does help me create that line for most of my shows. And I decided to play with that idea since my grandfather is no longer here. I wanted to know how old I was, and so I was kind of curious about that, and I'll lead into that a little later on, but just to let you know, I did find out how old I was about probably a little more than a week ago. So, why does describing my life in days feel unfamiliar compared to years? Well, uh normally when you you know talk to people in general, people say, How old are you? We don't say how many days old are you, because we don't measure time in that sense. For mainstream society doesn't see it in that concept as well. And I know a lot of times people ask those questions, you know, like how old you are, like when you're getting your driver's license, or you know, how old you are to vote. So it does play a certain thing, a lot of different ideas. But let's let's say, for instance, time doesn't exist. Now I'm saying that time does exist, but time exists in two different perspectives, different ways of thinking it, and that's what I'm trying to get at. So my teacher had comment, made a comment that she was actually talking to someone, and this person said, What if I told you time doesn't exist? And she she told me that's an interesting concept, and it made me think about all these different ideas, so it kind of made me think about a lot of things about what time is and how it might not exist. And my dad, my dad's influence on question about how people, you know, seeing reality from his perspective also plays a a huge part of the conversation about time not existing. And I'll mention a story about that later on. It's actually a good one. This isn't about numbers, it's about how we're taught to think about time. And here we go in the first set of critical questions. Again, these critical questions are for you, the audience, to think along with me, and I try to answer them in real time. Full disclaimer: I did record this about a week ago, and unfortunately, I had recorded probably about maybe 25 minutes before

A Lost Recording And Authenticity

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the doorbell rang, and I had to check with some people from the other side of the door to give me some apartment notices, notice, notifications, and so I came back and I hit record again, and when I was done, as you guys know, I tried to record everything without too many edits, and I was editing the first part, putting the music together, and I noticed something. The second half was missing, and I was like, oh, what happened? So on Garage Band, you can go back and do a previous edit and do an undone, and I kept on going back, but it wasn't there. So I went back further and it it didn't it wasn't there. So I tried to move forward and try to find those places where it was there and I couldn't find it. For some reason it was deleted, and I felt so upset and I felt really mad because the episode was roughly about 40 to 45 minutes. Like I said, it's a good episode. But I I I know I'm getting sidetrack a little bit, but it's kind of important to show that I take this podcast very seriously, even though it's just a hobby. I do want to give you guys the best quality. And you know, a lot of you might have said, Hey Cameron, you could have just recorded the second half all over again. But then it doesn't capture the food essence, you know, it's just like coming with a thought and saying, What do you like oranges? And you know, you start talking about why you like oranges, and this is just an example. And you know, you say, Oh, wait, wait, wait, hold up. I'm gonna have a phone call. And then three hours later, you get off the phone call. That's not the case, but you know, just just as an example, come back three hours later, and your ideas have shifted, and they're no longer the same perspective. So these questions I did have a chance to look at, but I also kind of was looking at them briefly. So I kind of have an idea, so I would still try to give out those critical thinking parts to you guys too, because you guys are part of the conversation, even though I I ask these questions in real time and I think about in real time. Now, because I messed up, there is some thinking behind that. So, again, after that happened, I didn't come back to it, but I digress. Let's get back into the critical questions. So, the first critical question why does measuring my life in days feel different from from measuring in years? Again, I'll say it again. Why does measuring my life in days feel so different from measuring it in years? Well, as I mentioned earlier, you know, we don't go around and talking about how how many days we are, you know. It's human timeline is very different. We don't see it from that perspective, and I think society has also shaped it into that way of thinking too. But it's just humans we see the world differently in that concept, and you know, that's that's how we see the world, you know, in certain ways of seeing it. And it's it's important to take that into consideration as this part. So we'll move on to the next question. Am I discovering something real or just reframing something I already knew? So I think in the last episode I kind of danced around that question and I didn't really give an answer. And honestly, it's it's kind of I I know what time is in a sense of my own experience, and I do share a little bit about that a little more. But my sense of time is very different compared to a lot of people because of what I've experienced. And without jumping too far ahead, it's by those experiences alone that kind of shifts my way of thinking about different things and thinking critically about the world in a different lens. And I'm not saying I'm better than anyone, and I'm not saying that my education changes that, it's just you know, people's experiences change them in a point where we think about things differently. So I know I seem like I'm dancing around the question, but I'm not. So I think time and reframing it it's it's real, but it's not real. And I that just seems like giving an answer that is not that doesn't make sense, but trust me that does. You know, sometimes my thinking, you kind of have to come along with a ride to see my rationale, and that's kind of the process of me, you know, doing the podcast so you guys can see those insights. So let's skip ahead to question three. Who taught me to think about time this way and why? It wasn't who, it was more like my experiences and you know, it's life, lifeing experiences, seeing different systems at play, nature, laws. And a lot of people are gonna say, how does laws play into a role of time? Again, that's about a feature in more in more of the podcast, but you guys are also supposed to think along with me. So don't think that I'm letting you guys off the hook as well. So let's move on so you guys can get the full idea. So maybe time isn't just something I discover, maybe it's something I inherit. Now that's an interesting thing. So we're moving on to section two. So we break times into units, seconds, minutes, and years,

Time As A Human Tool

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as I mentioned earlier. So these are human mate systems, and they're not natural laws in the in the in the world of in the universe, in this galaxy. And you know, it's just that humans need a system to categorize things, to make sense of things, to understand concepts sometimes. And, you know, that's sometimes why humans think a certain way, because we need to have some kind of basis, some kind of system to make things sense, to make sense of things. And it's how we educate ourselves to make sense of things. Because sometimes if you don't have anything to base anything off of, you know, it's a lot of unknowns. And that's what people are scared of is of the unknowns. Now, this podcast is not aimed at directing people to be scared about things, is about to think critically about your environment, seeing things differently, and how to kind of recognize these ideas and question things. And I heard a story earlier today about AI and how you know we're gonna lose a lot of jobs to it. And I think part of what the guy had said is kind of spawned on. And he goes, Well, you have to remember we're starting to move away to think critically. And I was like, Yes, you're exactly right. And that's what the podcast shapes around. It's it's called Mundo Perspectives to see my perspective, but it's also to see your perspective in critically thinking some of these skills and creating those ideas and kind of developing them more. So basically, we confuse measurements with reality times, and I know that makes no sense at all, but we do confuse m these measurements with reality because we don't really see a lot of the complexity about time. So, time as a tool for organizing change, not necessarily something that exists independently. Now, that is something kind of spot onto the point. You know, we use time as measurements, as a tool to kind of see things differently. And that that's the whole part about this, about the illusion of measurement of time. Because within human time, we can say that okay, a good example is, you know, we say dog years. You know, dog ears is different from human ears. And what is it, the the myth that dog years or seven years equivalent to one human year? So, you know, that's what I mean about how we see things differently. And sometimes we see things from a human perspective, and that's how we kind of make measurements in the whole world. And you know, that's how we talk about certain ideas, certain concepts. So if time is measured differently, does that actually exist in a fixed way? Well, let's think about this within the critical questions. Here's the next set of them. Are we measuring time itself or just measuring moments and change? I think it's it's both.

What If Clocks Disappeared

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I think we we're measuring moments and change. For instance, you know, in human history, we used to look up at this at the sky, and when the sky moved, we know that there were certain times to plant certain things or to guide ships in a certain way, or you know, even seeing the phases of the moon. So we can look up the moon and we can say, Oh, you know, it's this time of the year, this time of the phase of the moon means that it's time to plant our food, or it's a good time to prepare for winter, like, or it gives you like an idea of like how to see you know preparation in that sense. It gives us something to to kind of examine that idea. So here's a tri's a trick question. If all the clocks disappear tomorrow, what would actually change about my life? Now, for you guys, think about that question for a moment. If all the clocks disappear tomorrow, what will actually change about my life? What would change about your life? I think previously in the deleted podcast, I said that nothing would change my life for about maybe 24 hours. At which point I think it would be kind of important to know what time it was, so I can start figuring out what to do in sense of when to do my homework, when to go to sleep, when to relax, when to start making dinner, how many minutes has gone by before I ate that last dessert. So, you know, I think it would kind of catch up to the point where, you know, for me it'd be 24 hours. I think because of my experience, I could go about a day without looking at the clock. But I I have a sense of looking at the clock less on my phone, and I rarely look at my phone messages too, so it's kind of you know, I'm not a big Facebook person. I do have Facebook, but I don't use it as much. Kind of moved away from that, but getting off the subject, I think I only use my phone a lot to just check the time, and that's only at different times of the day. It's funny that I say time a lot. So you guys, if all clocks disappear tomorrow, what will actually change about your life? Next question Does time exist without something happening to market? And I think what I used in the last the last episode, again, before it was erased, I talked about the philosophical question about if a tree falls in the forest, does it make a sound? Or if no one's around, does it make a sound? And I think ideally it does. And here is the rationale behind that. Because for sound waves to exist, there needs to be gravity, something to kind of, you know, those waves need to bounce off things to travel through the air. And it's just like they were saying, if you if Star Wars actually happened and people were firing things in space, would it make all those cool sound effects? And the reality is no, it wouldn't. Sorry to ruin that movie magic for you guys, but they said, you know, that's that's based on the same idea about you know, if time exists without something happen to market, it it does exist, it does exist because you know our bodies age, you know, due to gravity and being earth, you know, our every single second, even as I'm saying the word second, I'm aging. So that's just kind of an idea because I think time would still exist in that concept. So I believe time does exist on different planes of reality, and it won't get really out there, but I want you guys to think about all these kind of ideas because this is a special bonus episode, and I really want you guys to kind of think about these different ideas. And it's not supposed to be like rocket science, it's just to kind of stretch your mind about that idea. So maybe time isn't something we live in, maybe it's just how we track what something's happening. Yes and no, I would kind of argue with that one. So moving on to the next section within nature and generations, and this is what I was talking about earlier.

Cycles Generations And Indigenous Time

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So a long time ago, I mentioned to my father, I I I heard the word generation because of a commercial. A famous soda had to tagline something about generation, and I kind of started kind of using that that that word a lot. And my my father sat me down and he goes, Do you know what a generation is? And to me it was like this great buzzword, and I said, Yeah, generation. And he said, Well, what is a generation? He goes, You know that there are different generations that exist in the world. And that concept kind of didn't really hit me right then. But you know, this was more than wow, this was a long time ago, many decades ago, that he mentioned this idea about generations. And I will talk a little bit further about that. But he used butterflies as mont multiple generations, you know, to make one single cycle. And he said, well, there are some butterflies that fly south, you know, and they have shorter generations. And then he mentioned about, you know, human generations. And so and I did use some Google magic magic to kind of see some of the ideas about what he was talking about. And I do have those a little bit differently. But human humans define generation in decades, completely on a different scale, you know, compared to butterflies. Within the indigenous perspective, you know, historically, time was marked by seasons, by winters, by moons, not by weekdays, you know, because that's a different sense of reality. Because, you know, sometimes the base of someone's cultural beliefs, they have different systems of seeing things. For instance, like, you know, the, you know, in Chinese New Year, you know, the year of the dragon, the year of, you know, this thing, the year, you know, they use different animals, and I think it's something like 12. So they based it on 12. And it's or is it more? I might be overstepping that one, but I think it is 12. I know someone's gonna call me out and someone's gonna say, hey, you need to do your research about that. So so here's the point I'm trying to make. You know, you have to see people's perspective sometimes to see how they measure time historically. It might also kind of be a reflection of how they interact in the world now, in the present. And, you know, that's kind of seen in that in that indigenous perspective that, you know, people are, you know, indigenous cultures used, you know, these different cycles to, you know, to go hunting, and like I said, to go plant, you know, and harvest. And, you know, again, nature follows its own cycle, and it's not based on clocks, you know. The you know, a lot of nature has its own cycles as well and the different things, like I mentioned about the butterflies. And I could go into so many things, but I'm gonna be jumping ahead, which I don't want to do right now. So, if time changes dependently on an observer, is it universal? And see, we're gonna get into that kind of different idea, but let's move into the critical questions. So if a monarch butterfly completes a life cycle across multiple generations, what does time mean to it? And that's an interesting perspective. For that butterfly, for the monarch butterfly to compl to complete a life cycle across multiple generations, what does time mean to it? And you kinda have to think from that perspective of animals. And I know a lot of you guys are saying, well, animals don't have the same kind of rationale. And it's true, but at the same time, I feel like, you know, there's life. Life in general experiences these different changes. You know, even time. Because, you know, there are flowers that bloom during during the night, and it's only during a special occasion that it blooms. And you know, there are certain times of the year, certain plants come out, certain trees blossom, like the what are those are they called cherry blossom blossoms, those trees in back east that they have those on Washington, DC, the those pink trees. I think, yeah. Anyway, but you you get what I'm trying to say, that time experiences differently. And they I think, yeah, for uh the butterfly, it it does it does have time to it, and it does I think it does have some kind of sense behind that. I will assume because it it's it's biology is telling it's time to fly, it's biology is telling it to complete its cycle, you know. So I think I think time to it, time, what it means to the butterflies, do have a different meaning. And they're they are in tune with it. I know I'm rambling way too much because I even started to kind of think about these things while I'm talking about it. So let's move on to the next question. So, why do humans assume our version of time is the standard? I'll repeat that one. Why do humans assume our version of time is the standard? Because humans are arrogant and we want to say that we are above certain animals, certain life forms, certain things, and we're all knowing and we're all smart, and reality we're not, you know, we're just trying to make sense of things, and I think it's just the sense that humans kind of categorize things to make sense. That's why they assume that that's the standard. Of course, before I go any further, that that's my opinion. That's my opinion. You guys have the right to kind of say, I'm thinking differently, and that's the whole point about you know critical thinking. You come to your own conclusion based on your thoughts and by those same different thought exercises. And so this is kind of one of those certain steps that I want, I mean, certain places I want you guys to, you know, critically challenge me on that part. And saying that humans are arrogant. I I don't want to come up as being like us, you know, talking down about humans. I'm just saying that I think it's just the concept of, you know, thinking that we're above everything and that we're superior, that we should see that as, and that's the reason why we see time as our own standard, and we don't see it from that other perspective. Because, you know, a lot of you right now are the first time thinking about generational timelines of butterflies and the seasons of the moon, and you know, and hearing these ideas, you are probably also changing your idea about time as well. So, next question: what would happen if I lived by cycles instead of schedules? That's an interesting one. What would happen if I lived by cycles instead of schedules? I think the cycle for me would be, you know, it'd be like um not really a good one because I'd be like, how many days was it before I showered? You know, and then it would kind of start smelling myself, and I'd be like, oh, Cameron, you need to go shower because you are starting to smell even to yourself. And I think it's kind of important to kind of think about those ideas that you know you you do need time for certain things. You do need time to understand, you know, those types of ideas. And you can't go like exercising on a treadmill or or what do they call those elliptical machines and not look and be like, you know, I'm gonna go about my cycle and uh I'm gonna go until I pass out and where my legs can't go anymore because that according to my human cycle, that means I'm done and tapped out for the day. That's just crazy, crazy talk. Because who does that? And you know, there are some people that do, but in a sense of things, you know, people look at the time and say, hey, you know, time for me to rest, time for me, 20 minutes, I'm done, or 45 minutes, build up a good sweat, I'm done. So I think it would be very difficult for people to live by cycles instead of schedules. So anyway, maybe time isn't just one system, maybe it changes depending on how you live it. Which leads me to the next part about my experience about time. So, a few years ago, probably more than a decade ago, I wanted to do this journey, and I want to walk from my indigenous community

Biking The Plains Outside The Clock

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to another indigenous community. And so I trained, I got ready, and I put a lot of time into Daisy. I used the word time again. I think we should make this into a game. Every time we say time, everyone puts a quarter into a bottle, and we want to see how many money that kind of knocks up into money. Anyway, stupid joke. Um so I I prepared myself and I put a lot of time into preparing to training, and and um that first year I walked for five days, five different days, had a small little crew following me to monitor my stuff to make sure that you know I had enough water, had enough, you know, snacks along the way to monitor my my house signs. And um in those five days, I got I traveled like five, um, I'm sorry, about a hundred miles. I think it was a little over a hundred miles. But the thing is, my feet were completely tired. I had blisters on top of blisters, and I actually took part in a ceremony that year, and I thought to myself, I should heal up heal up a little bit before I can partake in that, which I did, and I reflected a lot, and I I kind of wanted to continue on because I want people to know that I'm not a natural athlete, nor am I gifted in that sense of being an athletic person. So that was the whole motivation to do this this trek, this journey. So this the following year I decided to incorporate something that will get me further. But I thought to myself, what could I get, what could I do, what kind of activity could I do to make myself go further than before, travel further, be able to put more effort to it to travel in a different way. And I thought to myself, bicycling. So I trained, I got a bike, and I got ready, and in 10 days, this is kind of interesting. I traveled to over two really big mountain ranges, and I ended up in the plains, and when I got to the plains, something interesting started to happen. I think it was day eight. Again, I wasn't keeping track. Those this was something that was unplanned for. So when I got into the plains, I started to have this feeling because you know I recognized this area as being my traditional homelands, historical homelands of my people, my indigenous people, my native people. And while I was riding my bike on this stretch of this two-lane highway with my support vehicle following me, I was riding and it was before noon, I think, or it was in afternoon, and even now I can't even tell you specifically because this is what happens to this is what happened to me. I start to think, okay, who are these people that are passing me? Who are these people that are, you know, you know, coming from the opposite direction? Is it a Sunday? Is it a Wednesday? Is it are they going to work? Are they coming, are they going to an appointment of some sort? And so I couldn't think it was just really interesting because I put myself in the footsteps of my ancestors, you know, roaming out, roaming on the planes, on the rolling plains, hunting buffalo. And I just could assume and feel that I had a personal connection with them at that moment. Like I could feel them with me in this this journey, but at the same time, I felt kind of like a disconnected to the modern world, to that sense of looking at the time of the mainstream society, of like always being tied to the moment of looking at the time and kind of looking at a calendar, looking at the day of the week, you know, having places to go, things to do. But in that moment, all those things had faded away, and I was one with my people. And so that's why I mentioned that it's kind of important to kind of think about from my from my perspective, from my from my lens, it was kind of a connection to that idea, you know, being, you know, on traditional homelands and feeling a presence instead of time. And you know, and my ancestors, of course, didn't know Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, because you know, at the time they were out, you know, doing their own thing. They were living, they were surviving. And for me in that moment, that's what that's what I was tied to in that moment. So that contrast contrast of modern life was you know, awareness in that moment of those two realities and just that connection. So if time can disappear, was it ever constant? And so that's the theoretical part of this this uh this episode. Think about does time actually ever you know exist? Is it consistent? So I think time can exist on different ways of seeing things, and I think we humans try to put time into a different idea because time even in nature is very different. So let's move on to the critical questions because I don't want to go too far. So, why did time stop mattering in that moment? What changed inside of me? And like I said, the the critical part of it is, you know, for me, I thought about it and it was a connection to my people in that moment, and that's what changed inside of me. Moving on to the next question: was I experienced a loss of structure or a deeper connection to something that something real? I think it was both a loss of structure and a deeper connection that was real. I mean, it's not like you know, my ancestors didn't live out there, didn't live in that area. I mean, it was just being connected for me. So I have next question. Have I become dependent on time in a way that disconnects me from life? I'm gonna leave that one up to you guys to think about. So I'll repeat it one more time, give you guys a few seconds to think about it, and if you want to pause, you guys can always pause after hearing the questions. So again, have I become dependent on time in a way that disconnects me from life? Okay, so we're gonna move on. So before moving on, the the reflection of that section is kind of like, you know, for me out there, I wasn't tracking time, I was, you know, just living in the moment, you know, to have that connection. So moving on to section five. Time has a structure, power, and control. Now, this is what I was talking about earlier about how things kind of get different. Well, so humans formalize time

Time As Power Through Law

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with clocks, calendars, and deadlines, right? So think of it in this sense. So time is embedded into laws, governance, and systems. So my my dad was watching a debate with something on the news about birthright citizenship, and he was telling me, well, the framers of the constitution, you know, they were saying this to that, this. And I told my my father, I said, that's true, but you have to remember the framers of the constitution were thinking I hate to say it in this context because I know a lot of people are gonna get a little I'll just say it, but I'm gonna say I I apologize if I offend anyone. But the framers of the Constitution were all white, all rich white men that were only based on for their stuff. So when they say all men are created equal, it was only for that group of people. They weren't looking at minorities, they weren't looking at women, and of course they weren't looking at Native Americans. So, based on that idea, I told them, look, the framers of the Constitution didn't really see natives in that concept because Native Americans were not even considered actual citizens until 1924, with this the civil Indian civil civil the the the law is I forgot what it's called, the The Citizens Act, Indian Citizens Act, American Indian Citizen Act, when we become actually citizens. And that's also the first year that we actually got we could actually vote in the elections. There are some other places we were cut actually vote before that, but this is the first time, you know, nationally we could actually vote and we were considered citizens. So I had to tell them, like, look, you know, the framers understood the world within their own, you know, context. And this is what I mean again about seeing, you know, through a different lens. So you have to see things from a different lens to see different angles, different things in the world. So laws freeze ideals in time, but society continues to evolve. You know, like what I mean by that is, you know, the civil rights movement. You know, civil rights movement happened, but there's all these things that were kind of like leading up to that point. And, you know, we had the civil war, and then, you know, so you can see that, you know, time kind of freezes these ideas, and we're supposed to kind of learn from those moments, and a lot of times we don't learn from them. And, you know, that's part of the critical thinking that's being lost right now. We don't think about these ideas and see how it's affecting everyone else. And I I can say natives, but I'm saying people in general need to think about their critical thinking, and they need to engage in critical thinking more. So laws freeze ideals and time, but society continues to evolve. And as time is used to define identity, belonging, and rights. So, like I said, you know, even like women, when women were able to vote, you know, that came along a long time after, you know, the the signing of the declaration, the constitution. So if everyone is created equal, why did it take so long for women to be recognized to vote? Why did it take so long for natives to be recognized as citizens? So, like I said, you know, people have a certain way of thinking about certain things, and these laws are affected by that idea. But as time progresses, you start to see a different shift of thinking. And that's what I'm talking about with time. Time is the way that I best describe it is place and space. So think of it for this moment. Think look where you're at right now. And if you're driving, please forgive me, but think about where you're at in this place and time. So think about 10 years ago. What is different in that space and place? Now think about 50 years ago, what's happening in that place and space? Now let's think about a hundred years ago, place and space. So things are gonna change, things are gonna change in that idea, but it's very important to kind of look at it from that context, and it's kind of important to understand those ideas. So to think about that, I would like to kind of have you guys think about this little exercise about time and space. So if time and space changes, what is the consistent thing that ch that stays the same? And a lot a lot of times it's you. You are probably the one consistent thing because you're observing that space in place. So let's go in the reverse or let's go in the future. Same place you sit right now, let's go a hundred years in the future. See, things change within that time frame. Society is gonna change. So even let's go back in time to the 60s, there were TV program shows that had ideas that were considered too racy or too edgy for the time. And then now we look at it and we're like, what's the big deal? But in that space and place, space and space, it was a different idea. So we have to think about it in that context. So I would have to say, maybe, you know, think of it from that idea. So let's move on because it's kind of important to kind of go on to the idea. So let's think of it scientifically. So in the scientific sense, does gravity does affect time, and gravity affects time

Relativity And Why Time Shifts

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in that idea, and time is not fixed with the physical, because gravity, you know, is affected by things that have a huge gravity. It's Einstein's theory of relativity that plays into that, which I don't want to allow you guys' minds to explode. But so let's think of it this idea: time isn't stable, and why do we treat it like it is? So the critical questions. If laws are built in a specific moment, how do they stay relevant over time? And that one is a little tricky because it's we we buy into the notion of like we think about what is being said in the moment, but I think a lot of times when laws are created, we don't think about what's gonna happen in the future because things happen, technology changes, and that's kind of what leads us into the next section. So we're trying to move on. What do we what we use time to wait? Do we oh sorry, sorry. Do we use time to organize society or to control behavior with within it? Do we use time to organize society or to control behavior within it? I think that one's a question for you guys to think about, and for me, I don't want to really talk about that because I I think you know this is kind of like that becomes too political in a sense because I think that's a great question for you guys to think about for yourselves. So moving on to the next one. If even if even science shows time can shift, why do we treat it as an absolute? I think we're gonna skip that one because that was too too much on the brain, and we're headed up on 47 minutes and or a little over 47 minutes, close to 48. So let's kind of move on. Let's get into the bonus section. So time across scales, and we're gonna move kind of quickly to kind of hit all these different points. So, as I mentioned before about

Stars Butterflies And CPU Generations

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the monarchs, monarchs generation, they have at least three to four generations when they go down south and to come back and to make it their food cycle to complete. The first generation is called a super generation, and they spend, you know, they made the trip from from the northern part to the southern part, and they make half part of the trip back before they end up dying. But the next generations two, three, and four, they make their way back back north because they have a shorter time frame. But it's based on biology, so that's how nature fizzle fill fills into that part. And let's move on to bigger ideas, stars. You know, stars don't have years, you know, because they're billions of years old to complete a life cycle. So we don't say star years, but we know that they exist billions of years, you know, and that's of course years to human years. Of course, we you know that's just seen in that concept of time of stars. And you know, of course, human life is measured in decades. Anywhere from I think it was 20, 30 years, 40 years, 20 20, 30 years, I I think it was. And technology, of course, when you you know buy a new iPhone, it has a new processor, and that is called a CPU generation. And of course, with technology that evolves rapidly within years. So even CPUs, the CPU processor does change and does have generations. So that's another idea about thinking about time. And if time expands and compresses depending on your system, so what does that mean? The idea here isn't about one thing, it's a scale of how things are being measured. So if time changes at every level, what does that really mean? So here are the questions. If a star lives a billion years, how or how does that re redefine a lifetime lifetime meaning? And again, this is uh based on human years that we observe it in that context. So take that with your answer. Next question. Why do we assume our human scale of time is the most meaningful? As I mentioned before, I think we we as humans kind of are arrogant, saying that we're kind of the standard, we're above everything else. And that's just my perspective. Last question. Is time actually real? Or is it just different systems experience change? Or let's say that again. And I think it's both. Because time exists in different forms, in different ways, and it just it's just how the observer sees it in that perspective. Like for me, my time shifts a lot of how I see different things, and you know, it's just the way that I experience the world, you know, my time is a reflection of that. So maybe time doesn't exist on its own, maybe it only is relevant to what we're experiencing it. Excuse me. So bringing anything, bringing everything together. My grandfather, when he measured me, he told me how many days I was, which was pretty cool. Chat GPT, when I asked

Wrap Up And How To Help

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it a few weeks ago, I was actually closer to around 17,000 days. Oh, you guys do the math. I'm not gonna say how old I am, but 17,000 days sounds like a really interesting, you know, birthday, but again, we don't celebrate days, we celebrate years. So my teacher had indicated from somebody that she was talking to about how time doesn't exist. And in some ways it does and it doesn't. It's kind of the way that you experience it. Uh my father's perspective on time is very interesting because he does have a good point about how you know seeing things from a different perspective of generations, which is very important to understand the concept because having that idea of saying that, hey, generations isn't just this one idea, but it's different in this idea as well, kind of gives you that sense of things of like how you have to think things outside the box sometimes. And like saying, like, like all bottled waters are not the same, they have different consistency, they're different sizes and taste differently, but besides the point. And my journey, of course, when I went out into the plains, experienced that, and that's you know my perspective, how I see it. And nature, laws, and science are complex in you know, just in general. So let me leave you with this with this final thought, and we'll kind of get close to the end. Time might be something that exists independently, it might be something we create to understand change, organi organize life, and make sense of the world. And I think that last part is important. And we use it to make sense of the world. So the last question I would like to leave you guys. So if time isn't what we think it is, what are what are we actually living in? And no, I'm not gonna say we live in the matrix, even though some people are gonna start talking about matrices and flat Earth, and but we're not gonna discuss those ideas today. So I just want to say thank you for listening to the 10th episode. It's very important, and I do appreciate the people that have been downloading that have been listening to this. It's actually as of the recording of this day, we hit a little over 160 downloads, and that's pretty cool, pretty amazing. I didn't think we were gonna get more than 10, honestly. So I'm pretty excited that we hit this point. We are I've been this podcast has been downloaded in several countries, which is kind of amazing, and actually spread across in various cities, so I'm pretty ecstatic about that. So if you like what you hear, tell somebody to listen to it. This podcast is independent, no sponsorships, no nothing. So if you want to support, click on the show notes, hit uh on Bud Sprout, you'll take it to the page. You can be a supporter. Anything you can submit, that'll be great. It would be a monthly recurrence bill. But I do appreciate your time. Thank you for stopping by, thank you for listening. More episodes to come, and I have enjoyed this time with you. Keyword time again. So, with that being said, wherever you are, whenever you're listening to this, however, take care of yourself, take care of others, be good to others, be nice to others, but most importantly, thank you, have a great day. But like in one of my friends used to tell me, create yourself a great day.